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1 Something you should know about us (warlocks) on Mon May 21, 2012 3:27 am

CrawlexXx

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The warlock is one of the best damage dealers in World of Warcraft. Warlock can deal a large amount of damage in a short period or over time.His “dots” (damage over time) are very useful at PvP,PVE and raids too. Here are some explanations and tips for every PvP spec.

Affliction (UA)

It deals a great damage,but over time.It’s a spec for PvP and PVE too.Along the fear spell and death coil the affliction warlock can keep his opponent distant while the curses,slowly, are destroying the enemy. This spec is very powerful in combination with shadow priest (Shadowcleave). Alot of shadow damage and fears, so opponents have small chance to survive. Talent build for affliction is 41/20/0 .

Destruction (fire)

The destruction warlock is very strong in battlegrounds. It deals alot of fire damage with Immolate, Incinerate, Conflagrate, Soul Fire etc. With good critical chance, he can do awesome burst on opponent. Also, it's hard to play against melee. Talent build for fire destruction is 0/17/44 .

Demonology (SL/SL)

Sl/Sl warlock is mix of affliction and demonology (in the true sense of the word "affliction"). It called Sl/Sl couse of Siphon Life in affliction and Soul Link in demonology talents. Soul Link is very cool spell, because 20% of all damage taken going to warlock's pet. This spec also got higher Spell Damage couse of Demonic Knowlege. Talent build for Sl/SL is 23/38/0 .

How to play UA?

The "catch" for UA warlock is in dots, drain life and fear spam. The useful macro for dots is

/castsequence reset=target/combat Corruption, Siphon Life, Curse of Agony

and it works for Sl/Sl too. If you play against shamans, you'll need this one too


/petattack [target=Grounding Totem]
/petattack [target=Tremor Totem]
/petattack [target=Windfury Totem]
/petattack [target=Mana Tide Totem]

and it works for Sl/Sl too...

How to play Sl/SL?

Sl/Sl warlock is easy to play. There is one rule: "You live while your pet lives.". The "catch" is in your dots, drain life and fear spam.

How to play Fire Destruction?

If you want to smash someone, this spec is quite good for you. The "catch" is in your Shadowfury, Immolate and Incinerate. Also if you have time to cast, Soul Fire is quite ower power spell. If melee attacks you, you're screwed. The only way you can run is Shadowfury>Howl of Terror>Death Coil and this macro

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Something's not right here. Firstly, I'd like to see all of those talent trees made by You.
Actually, using /castsequence macros are pointless in PvP. Most of the DoTs are dispelled, so you can't really base on it.
Fire destro is all about CCing the target and DPSing it. First thing you should do is making sure the target has already popped his PvP trink. After that, it's easy as a pie - fake casts, using Seduction/Spellock (depends on pet summoned), fearing and just smashing the target hard.

The speccs should look like this:
UA - 41/9/11
Destro - 5/15/41 or 5/9/47 (hardly depends on the comp)
SL/SL - 27/34

Link me yours, please. I wanna compare them.

CrawlexXx

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Shaik wrote:Something's not right here. Firstly, I'd like to see all of those talent trees made by You.
Actually, using /castsequence macros are pointless in PvP.

Macro is pointless if you are idiot... x)

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Lol, honestly, it will be dispelled anyway. Do you know how /castsequence works in fact?

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So you think it's better to put these spells on 3 different keys than macro? You are funny x]

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I bet you didn't get more than 1700 rating. Although, you may just put them on alt+1, shift+1, crtl +1 if its needed... Using castsequence macro won't let you control the DoTs on your target, + replacing the same DoT with like 15 secs timing left is just a waste of mana.

Can You post the links to builds You suggest? Since it seems like they aren't correct.

CrawlexXx

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i'm not allowed to post link...

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Yes You are, just set a space between "http" and ":".

wacco

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First of all castsequence macros is not to recommend in pvp at all.. and you should cast CoA first as Affliction just because of how it works Smile

Here are some specs me and neo fixed over our active time on the server:

Affliction (UA with Shadowburn /rarecandy and neoxis calculated spec for broken SF)
www .wowprovider.com/?talent=2438606_9_725c22251223111551201205t505e1n

After some time we saw that vitadea and some other shadowpriests (FUCKING OP) dispelled UA instant and that was only because its multi-broken with damage on dispell so we simply tryed a shadow sacrifice spec to somewhat counter more damage and we won.
The pets is to broken to even spec in demology imo and its not needed to have imp armor over shadowburn and imp shadow bolt. But its all about taste but if you want damage you should go shadowburn.

Affliction (Succubus Sacrifcice / Insane damage and super easy just spam corr/coa and drain like mad)

www .wowprovider.com/?talent=2438606_9_715c2225022311055020020500301332101ze

This spec is really good for just dot and win damage but you really miss devour and spelllock but the HP from drain and the damage will kill vitadea and all the others Very Happy. Its also easy to kill bad warriors and rogues that cant play.
We use this atm and it really works but can need backup in crowds sometimes Very Happy

Destruction

I like to have corr and drain life just because its broken on this server with range Very Happy and change between nether protection or searing pain (mostly going with nether stupid shadowpriests).

www .wowprovider.com/?talent=2438606_9_705d2r5u555c512200510531051


SL/SL

2 points in Shadow Mastery and full Demonic Knowledge for most damage imo. (27/34)



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Affi spec looks fine, I'd only pass Fel Conc and Dark Pact spells (Imho they're useless in PvP, especially if it's going to be sp/affi comp), so it's my proposition:

wowprovider.com/?talent=2438606_9_735c22201223411550201205002r55e1n

As many destro warlocks as many talent trees, the most popular and the best one is:

wowprovider.com/?talent=2438606_9_705t205c2r55d512200513531351
(deep destro, with Soul Leech, Nether Prot, and Imp corruption).

The only correct one (imo) for SL/SL is this one:

wowprovider.com/?talent=2438606_9_735c222012231112f20500301332501005013x

wacco

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fel conc was broken on this server for a very long time but it works now and its really worth it imo and dark pact is OP Very Happy i use a dark pact if not pet/mana i will use life tap and that will earn some time and its just 1 point anyway.

btw why Cataclysm as affli?

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Why not? Better to get it instead of Imp. Sbolt. Why? You won't crit as an affi warlock, and Cataclysm reduces the cost of Shadowburn/Immolate.
+ As an affi warlock I seldom use channeled spells, so meh, I don't think it's even useful...

Why not Dark Pact? Imagine the situation Your pet is oom :3 Anyway, I've never seen a need of getting mana using it as affy. If it's sp/UA, you won't even oom. If it's f.e. UA/Hpal, Imp. Life Tap does its job good enough, so I see no point of getting it.

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Shaik wrote:Why not? Better to get it instead of Imp. Sbolt. Why? You won't crit as an affi warlock, and Cataclysm reduces the cost of Shadowburn/Immolate.
+ As an affi warlock I seldom use channeled spells, so meh, I don't think it's even useful...

Why not Dark Pact? Imagine the situation Your pet is oom :3 Anyway, I've never seen a need of getting mana using it as affy. If it's sp/UA, you won't even oom. If it's f.e. UA/Hpal, Imp. Life Tap does its job good enough, so I see no point of getting it.

There are So many things that i want to say about this but ill keep it simple, 1 life is broken here and does a shitload of damage , 2imp bolts are pretty sweet since in s4 /sunfire robe you do crit alot .
Dark pact is a matter of opinion.
And fel concentration is a must when focusing on sp. Youll be a major attention drawer in bg's not to mention alliance mostly consists of wars druides and rogues its really a must if going affli.

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I'm actually focused on arenas, where, imo it's pointless to use. You'd have no time for drains, + if you got it somehow, it's still better to cast immolate/inc and increase the dps instead of drain. Most of the teams focus on SP if it's about shadowplay, so meh, I don't find it useful.

In the imp SBs' case: My full s3 warlock aims about 8% crit. How much can You score in s4 gear + sunfire robe'n'shit? About 11%?
To compare: 472 resi decreases the chance to be critically hit by 12%.
In a lucky sytuation you'd get about 1-3% chance to crit. 1-3 critted sbs/100... Well, seriously, I see there no sense of getting it instead of reduced mana cost.

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Shaik wrote:I bet you didn't get more than 1700 rating. Although, you may just put them on alt+1, shift+1, crtl +1 if its needed... Using castsequence macro won't let you control the DoTs on your target, + replacing the same DoT with like 15 secs timing left is just a waste of mana.

Can You post the links to builds You suggest? Since it seems like they aren't correct.


there :

1. https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img812/5484/afflo.jpg

2. https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img692/1356/destroj.jpg

3. https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img577/6840/slsl.jpg

if you don't like it, don't use it... im quite happy with these talents Wink

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Compare those with mine. Do what You want, just suggesting those may be better imo. Especially the affi build - Shadowburn is sucha important dmg source, and pet isn't that important.

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ye i know, but i'm playing on these talents whole life and im "skilled" ... :]

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If You think so... well, I dunno, never seen you playing any 2s, never faced You tho, so meh...

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CrawlexXx wrote:
Shaik wrote:I bet you didn't get more than 1700 rating. Although, you may just put them on alt+1, shift+1, crtl +1 if its needed... Using castsequence macro won't let you control the DoTs on your target, + replacing the same DoT with like 15 secs timing left is just a waste of mana.

Can You post the links to builds You suggest? Since it seems like they aren't correct.


there :

1. https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img812/5484/afflo.jpg

2. https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img692/1356/destroj.jpg

3. https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img577/6840/slsl.jpg

if you don't like it, don't use it... im quite happy with these talents Wink


that isnt really a reliable destro spec.

[url=http://wow243.gamestool.net/warlockt.php?0500000000000000000002050000000000000000000055000512202513531351]Destro arena spec.[/url

this seem to be the most fair spec to work for me i also got another spec that im currently working on and looks pretty sweet.maybe ill post it.

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Everyone has their own style of play . If I can't play on your style, it doesn't mean that I'm noob or bad player... Maybe you guys think that I'm bad or whatelse... Its fine to me... :/

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CrawlexXx wrote:Everyone has their own style of play . If I can't play on your style, it doesn't mean that I'm noob or bad player... Maybe you guys think that I'm bad or whatelse... Its fine to me... :/
no i dont i just dont thinl vast sequence macros and your destrobuild are goos
I dont know much abpt sl sl but alot of destro, lock is pretty multiverse like druides .

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CrawlexXx wrote:Everyone has their own style of play . If I can't play on your style, it doesn't mean that I'm noob or bad player... Maybe you guys think that I'm bad or whatelse... Its fine to me... :/


Yeah whatever, the point is You've just missdirected players new to warlocks. You could post those talents as a suggestion, but I wouldn't recommend anybody to play using those, especially the destro and affi specs.

You have to admit that those talent trees which I & Appleman've linked are much better infact.

+ I got no idea how have you reached 2,2k using the castsequence macro.

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Ok guys... Guess what... I'm noob... Remove me from forum, Class leader stuff and guild... This is too much for me...

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Don't take it too serious, we're just trying to prove You that your talents suck balls Smile We don't want to insult you anyhow...

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something you should know about us warlocks: we dont like feral druids. that is all.

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